π§© BND Motif Index Β· M1589
It shortened the war
A terrible act of war, the bomb or the firebombing, is defended by the toll it spared: without it the war would have dragged on and more would have died, so the horror is told as the lesser cost.
π£οΈ ArgumentsποΈ War motifs
- 1claim filed under it
- 1center show it came up on
- 1right show it came up on
β οΈ A story people tell, not a claim that it's true.
A motif is the shape of a story as its tellers tell it, named the way a folklorist names a tale type, so the same story told about other people, by the other side or in another year lands in the same place. Some of the claims below are true, many are false. Arguing against a story is often a story of its own, its answer (Voter fraud is answered by Voter suppression, Lawfare by No one is above the law), and we file it there; where no answer has a motif yet, the arguments against a story sit with its tellings.
ποΈ Who it came up with
the shows we follow where its claims came up (0 left-leaning, 1 center, 1 right-leaning so far), colored by the show's lean; the bar is how many of its claims each one heard
- center
- right-leaning
"Came up on" means one of its claims was heard on the show: told, reported or argued against. We don't yet mark which. Show leans are our own grouping of the shows we transcribe.
π£οΈ In so many words
the words that carry it
π¬ the tellers' own words: βbecause if we hadn't, it would have continuedβ βI don't think this terrible, horrible war would have ended without it and I'm pretty sure less people died as a result.β
π§Ά Its claims
what's been told in this shape, in our words, by who told it: newest first in each; a claim's dots are the shows it came up on, in their lean's color (point at them for their names)
Told on the left 0
claims heard on left-leaning shows, and no right-leaning one
π¦ No claim heard only on the left so far.
Told on the right 1
claims heard on right-leaning shows, and no left-leaning one
- 2026-11-05 βThe atomic bombs used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary to end the war and saved lives.β 2
M1589 Β· first seen 2026-11-05 Β· last 2026-11-06 Β· what this is Β· how the index works