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Trump criticizes Zelenskyy over Ukraine negotiations

Oct 19, 5 AM ET to Oct 20, 9 PM ET · 1 outlet not rated for lean

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  1. Oct 19, 5 AM ETfirst on a front page: CBS News
  2. Oct 19, 5 AM ETfirst on TV: CNN
  3. Oct 19, 5 PM ETpeak: on 17 front pages
  4. Oct 19, 6 PM ETfirst on the radio: NPR News Now
  5. Oct 20, 4 AM ETretold online by 6 people

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Oct 19, 6 AM12 PM6 PMOct 206 AM12 PM6 PM817leftcenterrightnot rated
Front pages carrying it at each hourly run, Oct 19, 5 AM to Oct 20, 9 PM ET (peak 17), by the outlets' lean: left · center · right · not rated
Oct 18, 12 PMOct 1912 PMOct 2012 PMThe Epoch TimesThe Epoch TimesThe Epoch Times, Oct 16, 8:00 PM ET: Trump Says Ukraine War Won’t Be Settled Unless Zelenskyy Leaves OfficeRFE/RLRadio Free Europe Radio LibertyRadio Free Europe Radio Liberty, Oct 17, 4:00 PM ET: Russia Pounds Ukraine With Missiles And Hundreds Of DronesRaw StoryRaw StoryRaw Story, Oct 18, 9:00 AM ET: Zelenskyy scolds Trump as he defies president on world stageScripps NewsScripps NewsScripps News, Oct 18, 1:00 PM ET: Europe Ukraine defies Trump and launches one of its biggest attacks on Russia this year Tim Lister and Daria Tarasova-MarkinaCNBCCNBCCNBC, Oct 18, 6:00 PM ET: Ukraine hits Russia with 1,000 drones; Trump-Zelenskyy spat continuesOANOne America News NetworkOne America News Network, Oct 18, 7:00 PM ET: Trump says he doesn’t want to drive ‘Russia away from the bargaining table,’ signals progress in Russia-Ukraine War negotiationsWashington ExaminerWashington ExaminerWashington Examiner, Oct 18, 8:00 PM ET: Trump says Zelensky ‘doesn’t want to end this war’ and defends Russia strategyWashington Examiner, Oct 19, 8:00 AM ET: Trump says Zelensky ‘doesn’t want to end this war’ and defends Russia’s strategyWashington Examiner, Oct 19, 4:00 PM ET: Trump says Zelensky ‘doesn’t want to end this war’Washington Examiner, Oct 19, 5:00 PM ET: Trump calls on ‘somebody else’ to negotiate for Ukraine with RussiaWashington Examiner, Oct 19, 6:00 PM ET: Trump calls on ‘somebody else’ to negotiate for UkraineHuffPostHuffPostHuffPost, Oct 18, 9:00 PM ET: Zelenskyy Gives Trump A Grave Warning: Ukraine ‘Will Not Be Able To Stand’CNNCNNCNN, Oct 18, 10:00 PM ET: Trump slams Zelensky after Ukraine defies demand to stop hitting Russian oil Ukraine launched a massive drone strike after Trump said he doesn't want to drive Russia from talksCNN, Oct 19, 7:00 PM ET: Analysis by Tim Lister Trump suggests ‘somebody else’ should negotiate for Ukraine as tensions with Zelensky escalateCNN, Oct 20, 7:00 AM ET: Analysis Trump suggests ‘somebody else’ should negotiate for Ukraine as tensions with Zelensky escalateYahoo NewsYahoo NewsYahoo News, Oct 18, 11:00 PM ET: Trump rebukes Zelensky after Ukraine launches major drone attack on RussiaCBS NewsCBS NewsCBS News, Oct 19, 5:00 AM ET: Trump says Zelenskyy doesn't want to end Russia's war on UkraineBloombergBloombergBloomberg, Oct 19, 5:00 AM ET: Zelenskyy Says Trump Is Pushing Ukraine, Not Putin to YieldBloomberg, Oct 19, 6:00 AM ET: Zelenskyy Says Trump Is Pushing Ukraine, Not Putin, to YieldThe IndependentThe IndependentThe Independent, Oct 19, 9:00 AM ET: Ukraine launches 1,000-drone attack after Trump accuses Zelensky of prolonging warNew York TimesNew York TimesNew York Times, Oct 19, 9:00 AM ET: Trump Is Pushing Ukraine to Surrender to Russia, Zelensky SaysNew York Times, Oct 20, 1:00 AM ET: Trump’s Push for Deals With Russia Powers His Frustration With UkraineNBC NewsNBC NewsNBC News, Oct 19, 4:00 PM ET: Trump says Zelenskyy should not negotiate on behalf of UkraineThe GuardianThe GuardianThe Guardian, Oct 19, 5:00 PM ET: Trump slams Zelenskyy amid Russia sanctions rift and says ‘somebody else’ should negotiate for UkraineNew York PostNew York PostNew York Post, Oct 19, 5:00 PM ET: “I think it’s time for somebody else to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine,” Trump said in a blistering takedown of Zelensky.New York Post, Oct 19, 6:00 PM ET: Losing patience Trump again blows up on Zelensky, insists Russia ‘has been fine on Ukraine’ReutersReutersReuters, Oct 19, 6:00 PM ET: Trump says Zelenskiy should get somebody else to negotiate to end warPBS NewsHourPBS NewsHourPBS NewsHour, Oct 19, 8:00 PM ET: Trump escalates clash with Zelenskyy as Russia continues deadly attacks on UkraineMediaiteMediaiteMediaite, Oct 20, 5:00 PM ET: Trump Lashes Out at Zelensky For the Ongoing Russian Invasion of Ukraine: ‘He Could Have Made a Deal’📺 TVCNN, 5:41 AM ET: ZELENSKY: U.S. SIDING WITH RUSSIA WOULD BE "HISTORIC MISTAKE"BBC News, 7:48 AM ET: Trump: Zelensky 'doesn't want to end war'BBC News, 7:49 AM ET: Trump: Zelensky 'doesn't want to end war'CNN, 12:08 PM ET: TRUMP CLAIMS ZELENSKY "DOESN'T WANT TO END THIS WAR"CNN, 12:09 PM ET: TRUMP CLAIMS ZELENSKY "DOESN'T WANT TO END THIS WAR"CNN, 1:11 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS ZELENSKYFox News, 3:24 PM ET: TRUMP: ZELENSKYY IS NOT HELPING MATTERSFox News, 3:24 PM ET: TRUMP: ZELENSKYY IS NOT HELPING MATTERSBBC News, 3:25 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineCNN, 3:25 PM ET: TRUMP: "ALL I WANT IS FOR RUSSIA AND UKRAINE TO STOP THAT STUPID WAR"BBC News, 3:26 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineCNN, 3:26 PM ET: TRUMP: ZELENSKY "SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS WAR SETTLED A LONG TIME AGO"CNN, 3:26 PM ET: TRUMP: "ALL I WANT IS FOR RUSSIA AND UKRAINE TO STOP THAT STUPID WAR"Fox News, 3:26 PM ET: TRUMP: ZELENSKYY SHOULD HAVE SETTLED WARBBC News, 3:28 PM ET: Trump: We have given a lot to Ukraine. They have given us nothingFox News, 3:28 PM ET: TRUMP: GIVEN A LOT TO UKRAINE, THEY GIVE NOTHINGBBC News, 3:29 PM ET: Trump: We have given a lot to UkraineFox News, 3:29 PM ET: TRUMP: GIVEN A LOT TO UKRAINE, THEY GIVE NOTHINGBBC News, 3:33 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineBBC News, 3:34 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineCNN, 3:54 PM ET: U.S.-UKRAINE RIFT DEEPENS AFTER MASSIVE DRONE ATTACK ON RUSSIAFox News, 3:54 PM ET: TRUMP: GIVEN UKRAINE A LOT, IT'S GIVEN US NOTHINGCNN, 3:55 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:55 PM ET: U.S.-UKRAINE RIFT DEEPENS AFTER MASSIVE DRONE ATTACK ON RUSSIACNN, 3:55 PM ET: U.S.-UKRAINE RIFT DEEPENS AFTER MASSIVE DRONE ATTACK ON RUSSIACNN, 3:55 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:56 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:56 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:58 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIESCNN, 3:58 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:58 PM ET: TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE"CNN, 3:58 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIESCNN, 3:59 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIESCNN, 3:59 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIESCNN, 4:00 PM ET: TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIESBBC News, 5:02 PM ET: Trump: Zelensky has no idea what's going onCNN, 5:14 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 5:15 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 5:17 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIAMSNOW, 5:24 PM ET: TRUMP CRITICIZES ZELENSKYY, SAYS UKRAINE NEEDS NEW NEGOTIATORMSNOW, 5:24 PM ET: TRUMP CRITICIZES ZELENSKYY, SAYS UKRAINE NEEDS NEW NEGOTIATORMSNOW, 5:25 PM ET: TRUMP CRITICIZES ZELENSKYY, SAYS UKRAINE NEEDS NEW NEGOTIATORMSNOW, 5:25 PM ET: TRUMP CRITICIZES ZELENSKYY, SAYS UKRAINE NEEDS NEW NEGOTIATORMSNOW, 5:26 PM ET: TRUMP CRITICIZES ZELENSKYY, SAYS UKRAINE NEEDS NEW NEGOTIATORMSNOW, 5:30 PM ET: LEONARD: TRUMP PUSHING UKRAINE TO SURRENDER, NOT RUSSIAMSNOW, 5:30 PM ET: LEONARD: TRUMP PUSHING UKRAINE TO SURRENDER, NOT RUSSIAMSNOW, 5:31 PM ET: LEONARD: TRUMP PUSHING UKRAINE TO SURRENDER, NOT RUSSIAMSNOW, 5:33 PM ET: LEONARD: TRUMP PUSHING UKRAINE TO SURRENDER, NOT RUSSIACNN, 6:00 PM ET: TRUMP AGAIN SIDES WITH RUSSIA OVER UKRAINECNN, 6:01 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"CNN, 6:02 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"CNN, 6:02 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:02 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING". Mike Rogers | (R) Michigan Senate CandidateCNN, 6:03 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:03 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:04 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:04 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:05 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:06 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIAFox News, 6:06 PM ET: BIPARTISAN UPDATE. ZELENSKYY JOINS LAWMAKERS FOR VIDEO CALLCNN, 6:07 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:07 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:08 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:09 PM ET: TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIACNN, 6:09 PM ET: DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINEBBC News, 6:10 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineBBC News, 6:10 PM ET: Zelensky accuses US of delaying munitionsCNN, 6:10 PM ET: DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINECNN, 6:10 PM ET: DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINECNN, 6:10 PM ET: DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINEBBC News, 6:11 PM ET: Zelensky accuses US of delaying munitionsCNN, 6:11 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"CNN, 6:11 PM ET: DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINECNN, 6:12 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"BBC News, 6:13 PM ET: Zelensky accuses US of delaying munitionsCNN, 6:14 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"CNN, 6:14 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"BBC News, 6:15 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineBBC News, 6:15 PM ET: Zelensky accuses US of delaying munitionsCNN, 6:15 PM ET: TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING"BBC News, 6:16 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineBBC News, 7:07 PM ET: Trump: Zelensky has no idea what's going onBBC News, 7:08 PM ET: Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for UkraineBBC News, 7:08 PM ET: Ukraine and Russia continue to trade air strikesBBC News, 7:10 PM ET: Ukraine and Russia continue to trade air strikesBBC News, 7:11 PM ET: Ukraine and Russia continue to trade air strikesCNN, 7:24 PM ET: (GOP REP: ZELENSKY SAYS TRUMP ADMIN HOLDING UP EXPECTED PATRIOT MISSILESCNN, 7:25 PM ET: ZELENSKY: IMAGE OF GIRL KILLED IN HER STROLLER REVEALS WAR'S "TRUTH"CNN, 7:26 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH". Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and ZelenskyCNN, 7:26 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH"CNN, 7:27 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH". Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and ZelenskyCNN, 7:27 PM ET: GOP REP: ZELENSKY SAYS TRUMP ADMIN HOLDING UP EXPECTED PATRIOT MISSILES. Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and ZelenskyCNN, 7:27 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH"CNN, 7:27 PM ET: (GOP REP: ZELENSKY SAYS TRUMP ADMIN HOLDING UP EXPECTED PATRIOT MISSILESCNN, 7:29 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH". Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and ZelenskyCNN, 7:29 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH"CNN, 7:29 PM ET: TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH". Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and Zelensky📻 radioNPR News Now, Oct 19, 6:10 PM ET: story 2 of 2🧶 online🧶found retold online (the day's report)
Who carried it and when: each outlet in the order it picked the story up, a bar for each headline from when we first saw it on the front page to when we last did, in the outlet's lean color (dashed: not rated); a dot marks a new headline. Beneath, its captions on TV, the radio newscasts that carried it (bigger: the lead) and when people were found retelling it. Hover for details.

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💬 quoted: “somebody else” 3 “He Could Have Made a Deal” “Russia away from the bargaining table,” “Will Not Be Able To Stand” “has been fine on Ukraine” 2 “doesn't want to end this war”

🗣️ only one side says: 🫏 ukraine launches

✏️ 5 outlets ran more than one headline on it (reworded, or a follow-up)
  • Bloomberg (2 wordings): “Zelenskyy Says Trump Is Pushing Ukraine, Not Putin to Yield” → “Zelenskyy Says Trump Is Pushing Ukraine, Not Putin, to Yield”
  • CNN (3 wordings): “Trump slams Zelensky after Ukraine defies demand to stop hitting Russian oil Ukraine launched a massive drone strike after Trump said he doesn't want to drive Russia from talks” → “Analysis Trump suggests ‘somebody else’ should negotiate for Ukraine as tensions with Zelensky escalate”
  • New York Post (2 wordings): ““I think it’s time for somebody else to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine,” Trump said in a blistering takedown of Zelensky.” → “Losing patience Trump again blows up on Zelensky, insists Russia ‘has been fine on Ukraine’”
  • New York Times (2 wordings): “Trump Is Pushing Ukraine to Surrender to Russia, Zelensky Says” → “Trump’s Push for Deals With Russia Powers His Frustration With Ukraine”
  • Washington Examiner (5 wordings): “Trump says Zelensky ‘doesn’t want to end this war’ and defends Russia strategy” → “Trump calls on ‘somebody else’ to negotiate for Ukraine”
Every outlet's first headline (20), left to right by AllSides rating

📡 Broadcast

TV, radio, and the shows that talked about it

📺 On TV

CNN38 min
BBC News15 min
Fox News3 min
MSNOW2 min
  • TRUMP SAYS ZELENSKY IS “NOT HELPING” END WAR WITH RUSSIA CNN, 11 min
  • Trump: Time for someone else to negotiate for Ukraine BBC News, 6 min
  • TRUMP TO REPUBLICANS ON PUTIN DEAL: "I'M THE ONE THAT'S WINNING" CNN, 6 min
  • TRUMP: "RUSSIA, FRANKLY, HAS BEEN FINE ON UKRAINE" CNN, 3 min
  • DEM, GOP LAWMAKERS TELL ZELENSKY THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO UKRAINE CNN, 3 min
  • Zelensky accuses US of delaying munitions BBC News, 3 min
  • TRUMP: RUSSIA HAS BEEN "FINE" ON UKRAINE, "HAVEN'T BEEN DOING MUCH". Sen. Thom Tillis | (R) Hosted Call Today With Lawmakers and Zelensky CNN, 2 min
  • TRUMP SLAMS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, BLAMES HIM FOR CASUALTIES CNN, 2 min

📻 On the radio

  • NPR News Now, Oct 19, 6:10 PM ET: story 2 of 2

🎙️ Shows, investigators, satire

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🧶 Retelling

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🧩 How it's being told

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  • 🧩 Confidently wrong 🧶 online
    “Donald Trump claimed that Ukraine has lost its oceans and seas.”
  • 🧩 Foreign asset 🧶 online
    “Donald Trump claimed that Ukraine has lost its oceans and seas.”

🧶 Retold online

  • Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner are traveling to Norway for peace negotiations with Volodymyr Zelenskyy to end the war in Ukraine. Oct 20: told by 6 people (same issue)

    🦋 a post on Bluesky · 4 likes, 2 reposts

    🦋 a post on Bluesky · 5 likes, 0 reposts

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🗣️ names in it: Ukraine Russia Volodymyr Zelenskyy Donald Trump Russia-Ukraine War

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🧵 Persistence

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🧵 Russia-Ukraine trilateral talks

  1. Zelenskyy warns U.S. backing Russia would be a historic mistake

    Oct 19, 7 AM ET

  2. Russia attacks Ukraine's energy infrastructure again

    Oct 15, 5 AM ET

  3. Trump pauses U.S. sanctions on Russia

    Oct 20, 6 AM ET

  4. Ukraine launches over 1,000 drones at Russian oil facilities

    Oct 18, 9 AM ET

  5. Trump waives Russia sanctions to keep peace talks alive

    Oct 16, 11 PM ET

  6. Trump criticizes Zelenskyy over Ukraine negotiations (this story)

    Oct 19, 5 AM ET

  7. Zelenskyy meets U.S. envoy amid Trump tensions

    Oct 20, 5 PM ET

  8. Putin proposes trilateral summit with Trump and Xi on Ukraine war

    Oct 19, 2 AM ET

  9. Russia agrees to resume trilateral peace talks with Ukraine and the U.S

    Oct 20, 7 PM ET

  10. Russia releases detained American teacher after Trump intervention

    Oct 21, 6 AM ET